Friday, March 23, 2012

Don't go unless you have to

There are so many better cities to go to than vienna, i would say don%26#39;t go unless you absolutely have to.



I will start with the good points, there is a church worth seeing in the centre.



Now the bad points, the city is for the most part dirty and delapadated. The hotel we stayed in (supposedly 3 star {sorry blotted out details like hotel name from my memory}) was unable to provide any food as it was chefs day off!!! that said if the hotel food was as bad as everywhere else that we ate, then that may have been a blessing in disguise.



Don%26#39;t they sell soap in vienna, every time we travelled on public transport the smell of B.O. was overwhelming.



Finally, the blue Danube is actually mud brown, the boat trip served the worst food of all the bad food we had, and we got off half way through the 4 hour trip as there was nothing to see, unless you like rats on rocks.



I appologise to anyone who is already booked to go to vienna, but forwarned is forarmed.




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Are we really talking about Vienna in Austria here? I am very sorry that you have had such a bad experience with Vienna which I cannot agree with in any way.





Vienna is one of the loveliest cities in the world and Austria, including Vienna, one of the cleanliest places in the world. Have you ever been to Paris, London, NYC, etc if you consider Vienna dirty?





To any traveller who has booked a trip to Vienna: Don%26#39;t get any second thoughts, you will love Vienna and everything this city has to offer!




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Are you kidding?





Vienna is one of the most beautiful cities I have ever visited. I am looking forward to visiting again soon.




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I was strolling through downtown Vienna last night and really noticed how clean it was. My husband and I were specifically talking about that observation. There wasn%26#39;t a gum wrapper to be found. I was in Rome last weekend and that is a dirty city. The BO is indeed a factor sometimes, but it%26#39;s like that in a lot of other cities - London, New York, Paris.





Vienna is completely enchanting. I%26#39;m sorry you had a bad experience. Sometimes a few isolated things can skew one%26#39;s opinion.




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Geordieboy I can%26#39;t let your comments go unchallenged.





Vienna%26#39;s dirty? Both my daughters have been to Newcastle University and whilst I like the city nobody who comes from there has the remotest right to call Vienna dirty. There isn%26#39;t a city in the whole of the UK that is a fraction as clean as Vienna.





Bad food? After the rubbish I%26#39;ve eaten in Jesmond I don%26#39;t know where you get the gall to accuse Vienna of serving bad food. Where on earth did you eat?





Poor hotel? Possibly as they exist everywhere, but it%26#39;s very convenient you forgot its name. It might be useful to help warn others!





B.O. on the public transport? In dozens of visits I%26#39;ve never noticed it which is more than I can say for the vomit I%26#39;ve seen on Newcastle%26#39;s Metro from the drunken and rowdy nerds who use it to get around. Don%26#39;t remember seeing many of them in Vienna.





The Danube%26#39;s not blue? Well there%26#39;s a novel revelation. But I%26#39;ll bet it%26#39;s not as polluted as the murky Tyne!





Despite how this may sound I actually enjoy visiting Newcastle because I can easily ignore its deficiencies and see its good points. People who live in glass houses......




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Everyone is entitled to their opinion but to the potential visitor- weigh up the negatives and the positives and make up your own mind!!!!





Every city can have bad hotels and bad restaurants. Use trip advisor and the experts here to decide on a good, well recommended hotel and you should not have the problems this visitor had. With 4 forum posts he obviuosly tapped into the expertese of many DE here in Vienna before he went!!!!





The DE%26#39;s at this site are very helpful(and patient) and combined with the responses of other visitors who want to try and help others have a good experience, using this forum for its bests uses a potential visitor should like me have a memorable visit to a wonderful city.





Everyone can have a bad experience but it is only one Read the forums - I can%26#39;t find many other negatives. Come to vienna it is a facinating and interesting city. As far as European cities go dirty? Visit a few other places in the world and you will learn what a truely dirty and dilapidated city is- and it is not Vienna.




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Um, wow, what to say. I mean, Vienna was a part of a 10-city trip for me throughout Europe. It was definitely not my favorite city on my trip, in fact it may have been my second least-favorite city (out of the places I went).





That said, I still quite enjoyed my time there. Getting to stand on the stage of the opera house, watching the sunset over the vineyards at a heuriger, seeing how the Hapsburgs lived, wandering through an old jewish cemetary and seeing the Vienna synagogue (meaningful things to me personally), having a picnic lunch with goodies I arranged at the Naschmarkt, and on and on, it is a beautiful place with much to offer the tourist.





Yes I encountered some rude people and yes I felt the city was on the expensive side. But to complain about Vienna%26#39;s absolutely stellar and inexpensive public transportation and completely ignore the beautiful architecture, good food, world-class museums and palaces, and more, is quite a crime. If you ate bad food, I would venture to guess it is your fault for eating along the touristy areas. Thanks to suggestions from people here at TA and other places, I had many lovely meals in Vienna that didn%26#39;t break the bank. And my hotel, right on the Ring, was lovely. You can%26#39;t associate a bad experience at your hotel with an entire city. The city isn%26#39;t responsible for poor management at one establishment.





I can understand not emotionally connecting strongly with a place you were hoping to love. That did happen to me with Vienna. I don%26#39;t really have a desire to go back because I feel like now I%26#39;ve seen it and I don%26#39;t need to see it again like I%26#39;d want to see some other places I went again. But to take it a step further and implore people to stay away from the city I just find is unfortunate. Your %26quot;garbage%26quot; may be another%26#39;s treasure. Some of us can ignore trivialities like B.O. on public transport and some trash on the street. For me it%26#39;s about what a city does to me on the inside. Do I connect with the culture and the heartbeat of the place. Places like Copenhagen, Florence, Lisbon and Venice really got inside me and I feel connected to those places.





While Vienna didn%26#39;t do that for me I am certainly glad that I went and saw it and I would certainly never ever try to steer someone away from going. we are all different and enjoy different things.




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How can you know whether a city is attractive to anyone else? Moreover, I ponder on the sense of sentences like:





%26quot;I appologise to anyone who is already booked to go to vienna, but forwarned is forarmed%26quot;.





%26quot;Don%26#39;t they sell soap in vienna, every time we travelled on public transport the smell of B.O. was overwhelming.%26quot;







Although we should take every criticism seriously, your comments are just low, stupid and partly insulting. I like my city but I likewisely accept constructive feedback which is often justified. That%26#39;s not the point in my opinion. It is rather the manner someone uses to express any criticism.





I would not even say that you are entirely wrong, because subway trains and stations are indeed often (very) dirty in the evening hours because of the gradually worsening attitude of some folks - I daily worry! If you compare to Singapore, Vienna is definitely dirtier. But if I take into consideration what I have seen elsewhere on this planet, it rapidly calms me down.





The Danube has never been blue because rivers of that size just transport amounts of mud and other stuff.




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I am one of those who are already booked to go to Vienna this May. I%26#39;ve never been and I%26#39;m quite excited about going there, actually.





I guess you had different expectations of the place, that%26#39;s why you got disappointed. After reading your post, I did feel wary, but only for a second. Like I said, I am very excited about our trip to Austria and your comments only served to temper the expectations a bit.





Now, I will not get disappointed when I see that the Blue Danube is actually brown, and I will make sure to check the forum posts for restaurant recommendations. After consulting the tripadvisor hotel ratings and comments, I feel lucky to have booked myself a room at the Pension Suzanne. I plan to see an Opera (Siegfried by Richard Wagner will be playing on one of the nights I%26#39;m there), enjoy the Prater, be amazed by the imperial architecture, and just have a great vacation. :-)




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The River Danube is not brown either. I would regard the Chao Praya in Bangkok as %26quot;brown%26quot;, but definitely not the Danube. It is the typical colour of a river of that size. If you wanna see blue-like water, you need to go to the lakes and creeks in the mountains. A survey in 2007 [Joint Danube Survey II] proved that the quality has additonally improved in the recent years! Swimming and fish consumption is widely possible without hesitation (at least in Austria).




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It%26#39;s a wind-up.





He is from Newcastle.

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