Hi everyone
My family and I will be driving to Vienna from Salzburg and it seems that the motorway runs past the Lainzer Tiergarten towards the centre of the city. I wonder if it will be possible to turn off to Heiligenstadt en route, before going on to the Innere Stadt and then continuing up Kahlenberg from Heiligenstadt in order to see the view of the city?
I don%26#39;t know what the traffic is like going into the city during the middle of the day - we should arrive at about 1pm - and then when we leave the Wienerwald about 4-5pm to go to the Innere stadt,along Karntner Ring, will there be heavy traffic?
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I have been up to Kahlenberg two times, and it was socked in by fog each time. I still wonder what the view must be. If you get to see it, please let me know what you thought. As far as traffic, I always take the public transport, so I cannot speculate on that.
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Lainzer Tiergarten is actually rather large, the motorway is not strictly passing the main entrances of it - as for going up to Kahlenberg from the A1 rather than driving straight into the centre, it is possible but somewhat of a detour (I would not go to Heiligenstadt first as this means going into town and out again).
The best option to me seems to be to take the A1 exit Auhof (the last one which leads into Vienna) and then turn left into Bergmillergasse, which leads to Hüttelbergstrasse (14th district) and from there it is Amundsenstrasse-Neuwaldegger Strasse-Höhenstrasse, with Höhenstrasse taking you to the Cobenzl (also a nice view and some Heuriger/restaurant) and on to Kahlenberg.
Höhenstrasse is true to its name - it goes up and up and tends to subject you to serpentines. I suggest you only go to Kahlenberg/Cobenzl on a nice day which will offer you the nice views towards the vineyards and the Danube.
As for traffic, 5 p.m. is when the rush hour generally starts, Ringstrasse tends to be quite busy all day but in the morning and evening traffic can e quite heavy. Höhenstrasse etc should be fine during the day, provided there is no construction work going on (Auhof/Hadikgasse might be a bit busy, or so the radio often suggests).
Hope this helps.
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You will be entering Vienna from the Westautobahn ( A-1 )Lainzer to your right.
No easy way to Heiligenstadt from there as Heiligenstadt is on the opposite side of Vienna by the Danube.
Wishing to go to Kahlenberg and see a little of the Vienna Woods- I would watch closely for signage as you enter the city that says perhaps one or more things- Höhenstrasse or Camping Platz West or Braunausbrücke- or several of the mentioned names- you turn left there crossing the bridge
If you come to the Subway station - U-Bahn Hütteldorf yo have gone too far.
After crossing the bridge you should be on Bergmillergasse - just follow this street ( the bus line 35 B that goes to Kahlenberg will be on this street too )
then further on Hüttelbergstrasse then on Amundsenstrasse - again the bus 35 B follows this route Camping platz west on this route too. In some instances no real turning needed - only street name changes. Most times if my memory is correct direction signage will say Höhenstrasse or Kahlenberg
This route takes you through portions of the Woods and eventually to Kahlenberg - no need to enter Heiligenstadt. Perhaps a 15-20 minute ride.
But do you really want to do this - view is not really great in my opinion- but that is up to you.
Regarding traffic- The Ringstrasse ( portions with various names such as Opernring- Schottenring, karl renner ring ,kartner ring and more) is a wide 3-4 lane one way boulevard.It circles the First district - Innere Stadt. Clockwise direction
Generally busy at all hours -more so at commuter times 8-10 and evening 16:00 - 19:00 (4- 7 PM)
Generally traffic moves relatively quickly - various traffic lights .Sometimes a tourist bus or more slow traffic as they describe the sights to occupants.
A warning - the Ring also has streetcar lines - watch traffic signals carefully and watch when turning as they will often be near to you. They have their own signal system coordinated with regular traffic lights but again caution when turning .
Some areas of the Ring also have horse drawn carriages- again watch out!
Parking is expensive- hope you return the rental car in Vienna- Public transport is inexpensive , easy and safe- Driving with numerous one way streets, little on street parking and that governed by confusing laws to visitors is no fun.
Enjoy Vienna.
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Thanks so much to Info25, Heyerette and Vertical for your prompt and helful replies.
I had a romantic idea about walking in the famous %26quot;Vienna Woods%26quot; and savouring the wine at one of the Hueriger which Heyerette mentioned. Also the idea that we could visit Beethoven%26#39;s house on the way at Heiligenstadt, while we still had the car, was very appealing - a rough map of the different suburbs of Vienna in my travel guide makes Heiligenstadt look as though it is just in front of the Kahlenberg. However, I%26#39;ve since discovered that Beethoven%26#39;s house is closed on Mondays (the day when we arrive), and the thought fo possible fog etc doesn%26#39;t make the trip to the Vienna Woods such a good idea after all.
Maybe we could just drive through some of the woods if we arrive early enough (and your road directions, Heyerette and Vertical will be very helpful here) and then continue into the Innere Stadt, drop off the car at the Hertz office on Kartner Ring before the traffic gets too heavy and start a bit of the city sightseeing, as there is just so much to be experienced in Vienna.
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If you still wish to visit Beethovenhaus in Grinzing, you can take underground U4 to Heiligenstadt when in town, and bus 38a (I think it is, haven´t used it in some time) to Grinzing - which should also take you to Cobenzl and to Kahlenberg, should you wish to go further. Grinzing, really pretty in itself, is practically synonymous with Heuriger - and this is where you will also find most tourists who wish to visit one (including bus groups), but there are also quite a lot in Nußdorf and Neuwaldegg and Stammersdorf (all come with a bit of a ride on public transport though), or to the south in Oberlaa.
There are one or two so called City Heuriger, one I regularly pass is www.gigerl.at (website only in German, unfortunately, but for an idea), off Kärntnerstrasse in the Old Town. On a larger scale, there are www.melkerstiftskeller.at and www.esterhazykeller.at (though I´d personally not refer to them as Heuriger, more of a tavern really).
And on the subject of Beethoven again, you could also visit Beethoven Pasqualatihaus on Mölkerbastei (very close to the main University on Ringstrasse), where he also used to live.
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Why not combine a visit to the Beethoven Haus with the Heurigen Mayer am Pfarrplatz.
Look to this site for all information
www.mayer.pfarrplatz.at
Excelent wine with music too most evenings. Bus 38a to Fernsprechamt stop. A short walk of 2 minutes uphill for a good time.
Avoid Esterhazy Keller- limited food selections of less than great quality with only passable wine
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Hi Heyerette and Beppo-7
Thanks so much for all your advice and suggestions.
If we have enough time we will definitely take the underground and bus to Grinzing to visit Beethovenhaus and the Heurigen Mayer am Pfarrplatz which looks very picturesque on the website.
But I%26#39;m also very excited about the info on the Beethoven Pasqualatihaus which is very close to where we%26#39;ll be staying in Ebendorferstrasse (close to the University). The City Heuriger is also very close to where we will drop the car off in Karntnerstrasse, so we might even manage to visit one then.
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